“Pataphysics will be, above all, the science of the particular, despite the common opinion that the only science is that of the general. Pataphysics will examine the laws governing exceptions, and will explain the universe supplementary to this one; or, less ambitiously, will describe a universe which can be – and perhaps should be – envisaged in the place of the traditional one.” -Alfred Jarry

We believe that we understand many things. But when the layers are peeled away, when we examine the component parts that make up our incredibly complex universe, it is fair to say that we understand a mere fraction of what exists around us. Whether we consider interstellar distances or the air right under our noses, there are so many processes and realities that constantly escape our notice and comprehension as to form a universe in themselves. Perhaps universe upon universe.

Mari Shaw spoke to us in July from her home in Philadelphia. The last time we connected with her was several years ago. In the intervening time, Shaw reports she has lived a very pataphysics based life. This discipline was part of our previous discussion when we dove into her book about Tom Chimes (for more information see the reading section below). Shaw’s understanding of pataphysics has changed over the years and she reports that she’s gone even deeper in, experiencing this on every level of her own experience. Notoriously difficult to truly define, Shaw says that the era of COVID is a perfect time to put this elusive practice into action. To hear more about pataphysics, listen to the complete interview.

Duane Michals also joined us for a repeat conversation. Since the start of the pandemic, Michals has been distributing small books via email and has remained tremendously active. A well known and innovative photographer, Michals began publishing these short narratives, a timeline previously unheard of. A traditional exhibit would take around six weeks to put together while these stories appear each week. Michals, who is almost 90, has been deeply gratified by the project. To hear more about Michals remarkable life and career, listen to the complete interview.